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		<title>By: Side effects subside after stopping zetia.</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>Side effects subside after stopping zetia.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mary Jaksch</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jaksch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DiscoveredJoys!
Thank you for a very interesting comment.

 I had a look at the article you mention and it&#039;s really fascinating and instructive. Ah - some more food for a blog post :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DiscoveredJoys!<br />
Thank you for a very interesting comment.</p>
<p> I had a look at the article you mention and it&#8217;s really fascinating and instructive. Ah &#8211; some more food for a blog post <img src='http://goodlifezen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DiscoveredJoys</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4562</link>
		<dc:creator>DiscoveredJoys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work by Dr Nicholas Epley and Tal Eyal (see http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/07/improve-your-mind-reading-focus-on-big.php) suggests that when we wonder about how other people see us we are overburdened by our detailed self knowledge (the egocentric bias). We think people have a much more detailed view of us than is true.

Their argument is that we need to think of ourselves from a higher level of abstraction (the satelitte view rather than the street level view) to read others&#039; thoughts and intentions more realistically.

I&#039;ll turn this thought on its head. When you look at a street beggar you judge them by the egocentric view in your head - &quot;I don&#039;t want to be slowed down. I don&#039;t want to give my money away for it to be misused. I don&#039;t want to be taken for a chump.&quot;

Wise thought means taking the satellite view, a little distanced, a little (but not totally) dispassionate. Then you can entertain the thought &quot;How would I feel if I was in their shoes?&quot; without triggering all your own egocentric defences. And then you take wise action.

Wise thought + wise action = Wisdom.

Gosh, that&#039;s helped me clarify my own thoughts marvelously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work by Dr Nicholas Epley and Tal Eyal (see <a href="http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/07/improve-your-mind-reading-focus-on-big.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/07/improve-your-mind-reading-focus-on-big.php</a>) suggests that when we wonder about how other people see us we are overburdened by our detailed self knowledge (the egocentric bias). We think people have a much more detailed view of us than is true.</p>
<p>Their argument is that we need to think of ourselves from a higher level of abstraction (the satelitte view rather than the street level view) to read others&#8217; thoughts and intentions more realistically.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll turn this thought on its head. When you look at a street beggar you judge them by the egocentric view in your head &#8211; &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be slowed down. I don&#8217;t want to give my money away for it to be misused. I don&#8217;t want to be taken for a chump.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wise thought means taking the satellite view, a little distanced, a little (but not totally) dispassionate. Then you can entertain the thought &#8220;How would I feel if I was in their shoes?&#8221; without triggering all your own egocentric defences. And then you take wise action.</p>
<p>Wise thought + wise action = Wisdom.</p>
<p>Gosh, that&#8217;s helped me clarify my own thoughts marvelously!</p>
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		<title>By: What Chewing Gum Does to Your Hair or How to Write Sticky &#124; Write to Done</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4528</link>
		<dc:creator>What Chewing Gum Does to Your Hair or How to Write Sticky &#124; Write to Done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you tell a story, you take people on a journey. I recently wrote an article about wisdom on Goodlife Zen and used a story to illustrate it. The story had evocative ingredients, a homeless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Jaksch</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4430</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jaksch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel!
Welcome to Goodlife Zen. It&#039;s great to see a Zen colleague starting to blog. 

I look forward to an ongoing dialogue, Daniel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel!<br />
Welcome to Goodlife Zen. It&#8217;s great to see a Zen colleague starting to blog. </p>
<p>I look forward to an ongoing dialogue, Daniel!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Doen Silberberg</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Doen Silberberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mary,

Its wonderful to spread this outlook. I have subscribed to this blog and am loving it. Zen teachers unite!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Daniel Doen Silberbergs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LostCoinDevelopment/~3/JTxAdVQKuQs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Future of Lost Coin Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mary,</p>
<p>Its wonderful to spread this outlook. I have subscribed to this blog and am loving it. Zen teachers unite!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Daniel Doen Silberbergs last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LostCoinDevelopment/~3/JTxAdVQKuQs/" rel="nofollow">The Future of Lost Coin Blog</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jaksch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jaksch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonathan!
Thanks for the lovely quotes. I especially like “The key to wisdom is knowing all the right questions.”

So often people think that wisdom is knowing all the answers. Wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan!<br />
Thanks for the lovely quotes. I especially like “The key to wisdom is knowing all the right questions.”</p>
<p>So often people think that wisdom is knowing all the answers. Wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan &#124; enlightenYourDay.com</title>
		<link>http://goodlifezen.com/2009/03/09/wisdom-the-forgotten-dimension/#comment-4402</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan &#124; enlightenYourDay.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  I love this quote &quot;Wisdom means having the moral will to do right by other people, and to have the moral skill to figure out what doing right means.&quot;

Thanks for sharing...

Here sre a few more quotes on Wisdom:

      “Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it” 
 Albert Einstein
 
      “The key to wisdom is knowing all the right questions.” 
 John A. Simone, Sr.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jonathan &#124; enlightenYourDay.coms last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EnlightenYourDay/~3/q88mwRYP_Fs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stillness Speaks: Meditative thoughts by Eckhart Tolle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  I love this quote &#8220;Wisdom means having the moral will to do right by other people, and to have the moral skill to figure out what doing right means.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing&#8230;</p>
<p>Here sre a few more quotes on Wisdom:</p>
<p>      “Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it”<br />
 Albert Einstein</p>
<p>      “The key to wisdom is knowing all the right questions.”<br />
 John A. Simone, Sr.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jonathan | enlightenYourDay.coms last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EnlightenYourDay/~3/q88mwRYP_Fs/" rel="nofollow">Stillness Speaks: Meditative thoughts by Eckhart Tolle</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jaksch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jaksch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken!
Yes - you&#039;re right, awareness isn&#039;t enough. It&#039;s the next bit (the moral will to do right) that is the wisdom bit.

By the way - I forgot to mention one more attribute of wisdom. And that is to have a sense of humor. 

Do you agree with sense of humor being an attribute of wisdom?

By the way -thanks for a lovely comment, Ken!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken!<br />
Yes &#8211; you&#8217;re right, awareness isn&#8217;t enough. It&#8217;s the next bit (the moral will to do right) that is the wisdom bit.</p>
<p>By the way &#8211; I forgot to mention one more attribute of wisdom. And that is to have a sense of humor. </p>
<p>Do you agree with sense of humor being an attribute of wisdom?</p>
<p>By the way -thanks for a lovely comment, Ken!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - the more I read this, the more complex it becomes, the more facets I see.  I love it, and will be working my way back into the archives, as time allows.

I like how Dean&#039;s comment on Marketing relates to Leo&#039;s post (on ZenHabits.net from sometime in Feb - slowly catching up on my reading) called &quot;Let the World Pass You By&quot;, which had a link to a &#039;talk&#039; by Leo on a site called Micro Persuasion, about the &quot;Tao of Marketing&quot; - and finding a true *compassionate* win-win (as opposed to traditional win-win, which is usually translated to I win, you&#039;re not hurt too badly, so I&#039;ll call it win-win).

As for the repeat lessons in different clothes you (and the rest of us) have been experiencing, life can be such a pain.  Even if you don&#039;t notice the connection until after the fact, just that you notice shows wisdom.  Finding a template to use which covers many of the cases, and sharing it, shows both wisdom and compassion.  It also allows the rest of us to take part in the higher form of learning - learning from the mistakes of others, as there simply isn&#039;t enough time in one life to make every mistake (so make every mistake count!)

In your comment to Evelyn, you mention that being present is part of wisdom.  Perhaps I&#039;m picking at nits, but my perception is that being present allows to notice things that we might otherwise miss.  The wisdom comes into play when we decide on how to act on the information.  A very aware fool could notice the same thing and come to a different conclusion.  I would strongly agree that compassion is the foundation of wisdom.  Experience and intelligence are then built on top of it.

In closing, Evelyn&#039;s comment on wisdom and age reminded me of something I heard on the net...

Wisdom doesn&#039;t always come with age, sometimes age shows up alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; the more I read this, the more complex it becomes, the more facets I see.  I love it, and will be working my way back into the archives, as time allows.</p>
<p>I like how Dean&#8217;s comment on Marketing relates to Leo&#8217;s post (on ZenHabits.net from sometime in Feb &#8211; slowly catching up on my reading) called &#8220;Let the World Pass You By&#8221;, which had a link to a &#8216;talk&#8217; by Leo on a site called Micro Persuasion, about the &#8220;Tao of Marketing&#8221; &#8211; and finding a true *compassionate* win-win (as opposed to traditional win-win, which is usually translated to I win, you&#8217;re not hurt too badly, so I&#8217;ll call it win-win).</p>
<p>As for the repeat lessons in different clothes you (and the rest of us) have been experiencing, life can be such a pain.  Even if you don&#8217;t notice the connection until after the fact, just that you notice shows wisdom.  Finding a template to use which covers many of the cases, and sharing it, shows both wisdom and compassion.  It also allows the rest of us to take part in the higher form of learning &#8211; learning from the mistakes of others, as there simply isn&#8217;t enough time in one life to make every mistake (so make every mistake count!)</p>
<p>In your comment to Evelyn, you mention that being present is part of wisdom.  Perhaps I&#8217;m picking at nits, but my perception is that being present allows to notice things that we might otherwise miss.  The wisdom comes into play when we decide on how to act on the information.  A very aware fool could notice the same thing and come to a different conclusion.  I would strongly agree that compassion is the foundation of wisdom.  Experience and intelligence are then built on top of it.</p>
<p>In closing, Evelyn&#8217;s comment on wisdom and age reminded me of something I heard on the net&#8230;</p>
<p>Wisdom doesn&#8217;t always come with age, sometimes age shows up alone.</p>
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